“If you want God to punish Osama Are you ready yourself?” – Outreach Media

Posted by on June 6, 2011 in Thoughts | 5 comments

Outreach Media’s poster for June focuses on the recent reports of the tracking down and killing of Al-Qaida leader Osama Bin Laden. The poster reads:

“If you want God to punish Osama Are you ready yourself? ‘All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God’ The Bible”

The Bible quote actually comes from Romans 3:23 and the tract they speak of is saying that all men, whether Jew or Gentile are born of sin, and the only way to redemption is through Jesus, not through human laws.

OK we’ve all heard this kind of talk before, but Outreach Media have decided it’s a good idea to compare the life and death of Osama Bin Laden to that of a self righteous Christian. Let’s look further into the page attached to this poster.

The page goes on about how, even though Bin Laden was evil (not just normal evil like you and I, but super-evil like Hitler, Stalin and Genghis Khan), that you, sinner, for the crime of being born into a human body, God has cursed you, and you will surely go to Hell unless you accept Jesus and blah blah blah.

The article does point out one interesting thing though:

“… Osama Bin Laden was just as human as anyone. Apparently gentle and mild mannered, he was a man of conviction. It’s just that his convictions were wrong.”

Right, so, because his convictions were coming from a different culture, a different religion and a different history, he is wrong? Or is he wrong because he was a killer? If he was killing in the name of God and Jesus instead of Allah, would his convictions be right? Or is this poster condemning killing all together? If a man starts war, prays to Jesus (and is therefore forgiven), and by his actions causes the deaths of tens of thousands of people with God on his side, does that make him more or less wicked than Bin Laden?

I know what the answer will be, something along the lines of “Bin Laden was evil because he was a Muslim terrorist, and Muslims attacked the World Trade Centre, and Muslims are wrong.” It can only come back to some kind of circular reasoning, that hinges on these two assertions: “The Bible is the word of God, because the Bible says it is the word of God.” I’m not interested in the finer points of the 9/11 attacks, as they don’t matter here.

But so does the Koran.

The other thing this poster highlights further is the obsession with death that religious folk have. Prepare yourself now for death, because if you don’t you will burn forever in hell. Where here is the incentive to live this life like it matters? Sure someone can come back to me and say “But the bible says be good to one another”. To that I would say, “Yes but nowhere near as many times as it warns to be obedient, to worship and to live by God’s laws, or you will go to Hell.

I often see reference to the modern Christian, one who says they believe the Bible, but none of that nasty stuff in Leviticus, or Timothy. They believe the bits they want to believe, the bits that make them feel good. Yet they still maintain it is the Word of God.

I find the whole idea of only using this life as preparation for the afterlife sickening in so many ways, and destructive of this life. After all, what incentive is there to live this life well if by pandering to a list of demands from your God you get to live forever in heaven, which is what you want to be doing right?

Instead of asking yourself if you’ve followed the God-rules, why don’t you ask yourself this: “Are you being a good person in this life, for the sake of being a good person, so that when you lie on your deathbed you can look back with satisfaction? Or are you only being good to satisfy the God criteria?”

On thing is for sure, as long as you’re a Christian, you think you are better than a Muslim man in the desert with a gun, right? After all, they are wrong!

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  1. For theists, logical inconsistencies and circular reasoning are the lifeblood of any religion. Nor do they balk at deception, denials, and dissembling.

    So why should any of this be even slightly exceptional? It’s nothing more than business as usual. That business being the perpetuation of the greatest scam upon humanity of all time.

    Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been, caused by religion. For example, Northern Ireland, the Middle East, 9/11, and family planning clinic bombing in the USA. Then there were the crusades, the inquisition, witch burnings, and the dark ages. Get the idea?

    Humanity will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and rational thinking.

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  2. “On thing is for sure, as long as you’re a Christian, you think you are better than a Muslim man in the desert with a gun, right? After all, they are wrong!”

    I’m a Christian and I don’t think I’m any “better” than the Muslim man. Why would I? Isn’t that exactly the point of Romans (not Mark) 3:23?

    But, yeah, I think they’re wrong. So what? You think I’m wrong don’t you?

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    • Quite right, that was from Romans. It mentioned Mark later on so I mush have made a mistake when I put the link in. For that I apologise. I have fixed this in the article.

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    • The difference between Martin (and myself) thinking you’re wrong, and you thinking Muslims are wrong is as follows:

      We think you’re wrong because there is no evidence to back up any of your faith based claims that holds any water when examined scientifically or historically. We think Muslims are wrong for the same reason.

      You think Muslims are wrong because they pray to another deity, also for which there is no evidence.

      But both groups are invited to prove us wrong. If you can do it, you’d be the first in human history.

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      • Ryan,

        Actually, they both pray to the same god. That’s what makes it even crazier. No, the difference between Christians and Muslims is essentially the same as the difference between Catholics and Protestants. The main difference is that each has a separate holy book that “reveals” the word of their imaginary god differently. As far as similarities, both are xenophobic, misogynistic, sadistic, and controlling. Enough reason for me to reject them, beyond the lack of any evidence for the existence of their imaginary friend.

        And for Dan: No, I don’t “think” you are wrong, I am pretty positive (p > .999999) you are wrong.

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